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You pointed out some real problems when you mentioned the superficiality of many churches, and the immaturity of many Christians. I agree that “Most Christians fall into the spectrum of faith at the lower end – the colder, maybe near temperate zone where they find comfort.”

I also agree that a big part of the problem is “Failing to fully recognize our ongoing personal, individual depravity.” I would like to make a few comments about that – not to disagree with what you said, but to elaborate on it.

Everyone, no matter what their religious belief or non-belief, even atheists and secularists and opponents of religion, know that they have done things that are wrong, even bad. We have all said things we shouldn’t have said, done things we shouldn’t have done, and we all have a conscience that makes us feel guilty or remorseful for various things in our lives (someone who has no conscience at all can be called a sociopath or a psychopath, I believe).

So the problem with much Christianity is, that many people look to Christ for forgiveness for their sins on that level of merely human psychological guilt – “I am sorry I did this, I shouldn’t have done that” – while at the same time they feel deep down that they are basically good people after all. I had this attitude myself for years (and needless to say my Christian life was full of problems – resentments, fears, doubt, anxiety, disobedience and sin).

They have not been completely convicted of their utter condemnation before the holiness of God, and hence they still retain a lot of self will and self confidence. Thus they can never enter into the deeper things of faith, unless they are truly convicted in a manner that only the Holy Spirit can do. Short of that divine conviction, pride and self remain on the throne, above all the doctrines and religious words and activities.

“This is why Christ said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of God” – and to be poor in spirit does not mean feeling “I am stupid, I am a failure, no one likes me.” It means poverty of spirit relative to the infinite perfections of God, without which there can be no progress in the Christian life - and only the Spirit of Christ can give this.

Another problem is confusing “faith” with “assent to doctrine.” Some people believe that if they agree to the basic doctrines they are now home free. However, the Bible says “The just shall live by faith.” Faith is a gift of God, but once that gift has been received there must be a new creature, as you pointed out.

There is also a question about what “salvation” means. Some people think that salvation is something that kicks in on the day of judgment. You do your best in this life and then if you have believed in Christ he will intercede for you on the day of judgment, your sins will be forgiven, and God will accept you. But “salvation from sin” is to be in this life also, so we are set free from the power of sin in our hearts and minds, so that while we still err and are vexed by sin, sin does not rule over us.

As you rightly said of many Christians,

“They never exercise their faith and willingly fall into the trap of the world; falling in love with it to the exclusion of taking up their cross and denying their own lives. Are these folks saved? Only God knows the condition of their hearts, but from my own perspective, most aren’t saved – they may have spoken the words and stood in front of a church and continue to profess Christ, but there’s no real evidence that they have. As Jesus said, you will know a tree by its fruit. If their fruit isn’t spiritually alive and instead quite dead, then they’re only fooling themselves."

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